Friday, February 10, 2006

"Black Secrets" at NASA?

I strongly suspect I came across a “blip” in the information concealment efforts of the U.S. regarding NASA’s true knowledge. Here’s what happened late this past July;
I am an American living in Mexico and one evening my Latin wife pointed out a story she was reading on a Spanish version of Google News which was being served from a system outside of the U.S. (therefore outside of the “National Security” censorship agreement Google is beholden to in its News coverage within the United States, I later learned). The story was about a scandal erupting between Spain and the United States as apparently a group of Spanish Solar research scientist (working for the Spanish government) hacked into NASA computers as a last resort due to frustration over their belief that NASA was withholding information being gathered by NASA’s satellite observations of the sun. It seems the Spanish scientists confirmed that NASA was studying a discovery of ice on the sun as a result of their hacking.

Ice on the sun? I couldn’t believe it. I looked for the story in an English version of Google News (presumably a U.S. based system - I did not know at the time about the security agreement under which Google was bound in the U.S., that story came out recently). I could not find anything at all about this story. I asked my wife the next day to find the story again on the Latin site. She looked and found nothing there any longer. Odd?

Later I did advanced searches and never found the story again although I did not search again within a Spanish system as I could not get my wife to share my interest in documenting this “blip”. Perhaps you’ll find this more interesting than she did.

I did find a fascinating scientific theory in my quest that could explain the possibility of ice being on the sun.
http://www.alternativescience.com/is_the_sun_hot.htm

This theory involves cold fusion and I suppose NASA’s discovery of ice on the sun would point to the viability of cold fusion- not to mention being right up there with little discovery’s like , lets say, Rome not being the centre of the universe or the sun not rotating around the earth. The radical potential that the sun could be an icy system producing cold fusion energy would clearly give a motive for the U.S. to conceal such information under the cloak of “Black Secret” security in the name of the potential military advantage of exclusive command of such potential technology.

The question at hand is did Spain in fact break into NASA’s files and confirm the discovery of ice on the sun?

If it’s true this is huge.

The current news of censorship of Scientists and the unchecked effects of Bush appointees with hidden agendas at NASA is the tip of the iceberg.

30 Comments:

At 3:51 AM, Blogger Pedro said...

A few years ago a friend of mine told me about the sun not being hot and there was a scientist that research this and also wrote a book.

Do you know this book or the author?

 
At 4:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the sun's cold nature and solid structure, it is already very well known fact by Islam's scientists that already informed public domain for thousands of years.

However, the thing is that certain evil forces who keep today's humanity under illusional control, does not want you to know the key points which might lead you to discover the truth.

Sun is cold, sun just act as mirror to supreme beings originated from non-galactical body universe (Islam calls this Arsh-Ul ala universe) and reflect it to 4D material universe where plasma and electro-magnetism got formed, and distributed all over the 3D galactical bodies.

Hope this helps.

Merih Akca
merih@merihnet.com

 
At 7:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sun is about 5000 to 6000 degrees Celcius. To me, that's very hot.

 
At 2:15 PM, Anonymous Nur said...

The sun is indeed not hot. The heat comes from the energy that emits combined with elements form our atmosphere.

It is well known that astronauts have had trouble even finding the sun when going into space and also they complain of how cold it is.

 
At 6:45 AM, Anonymous sir. sweeney said...

Good indeed but explain to me why there is not heat in space but its heat on earth?

 
At 9:41 AM, Blogger Paul said...

The Sun does create heat on earth by exciting molecules just like a microwave oven does. The oven is not hot, not a consuming fire but a sophisticated machine transmitting a signal. It heats some things but not others. The popcorn is hot, the bag is not. Once you understand the Sun to be a sophisticated organic machine, a transmitter and receiver the whole paradigm shifts. Then you can see that the cycles are precise therefore predictable.

UPDATE: There will be a global blackout on or about December 21, 2012. No power for years. Get ready! Good luck. Tell others please.

 
At 5:59 AM, Blogger yogodogochan said...

if the sun is not hot then why can a light bulb burn you?

 
At 2:06 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Best way to find out how COLD Sun is, is to go to Erupting Volcano and walk on Lava.

That will give you better idea how cold The Sun is.

This is nonsense.

 
At 3:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am finding it is very important to question literally everything we have been told by the media,and our "trusted officials"no matter how ridiculous.It was hitler who said the bigger the lie,the more believable it is!!!:P

 
At 11:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why the closer to the sun you go, the colder it gets (think snow on mountain tops) and the further away you get, the hotter it is (think Death Valley).

 
At 11:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The sun glows but it's not hot. Light is a form of energy and when the light hits the earths Round atomosphear the light becomes concentrated like with a magnifying glass, also this explains why there is snow on the mountains cause the light needs a curtain distance to concentrate to produce heat. The sun also appears smaller then it really is because the light has concentrated. You can also change the direction of this heat with a mirror. But if the sun was hot this would just reflect the light away and leave the heat. Thus proving the sun is not hot.

 
At 11:08 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

thanks Paul, it makes sense. I have known for years that the sun is not hot and you all provide some interesting explications for that. Too bad NASA is hiding so many secrets for us (contact with extraterrestrials, alien landing bases on the far side of the moon, et cetera)

 
At 9:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi was thinking about this the other day with no prompt from the web.Decided to see who thought the same.if space is a vacuum no heat can pass.if atmosphere provides protection lunar lander should have burned up as moon has no atmosphere.bible says let there be light, and there was light, not light and heat.focal point comment brilliant as when sun is on the horizon the focal point is further away thus cooler.If sun emitting heat at the rate described then a few hundred kilometres difference at sun down would make no difference to the heat we feel through the day,black absorbs more light becomes hotter than other colours,it does not absorb heat.my car is the same color as a hot iron bar ,does that mean it is as hot as the sun?apparently this is how scientists guage the temperature of the sun.

 
At 4:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People who do not understand science or how NASA gathers data should not be commenting. Islam's scientists are full of crap.

NASA publishes all kinds of data that is contrary to the current theories. I work in astrophysics and I have seen no attempt by NASA to cover up any info or data on the Sun. In fact they do the opposite.

Google SDO. Solar Dynamics Observatory. You can get real time images of the Sun in 4k hd with a lot of data to boot. Why would NASA do this if they were trying to hide something about the Sun?

If you need to get your info from a blog that is produced by a guy living in his mom's basement, you may want to question the validity of his info.

 
At 6:49 PM, Anonymous DeliciousCake said...

this is ridiculous.

you are ridiculous.

i shall be informing the government that you know all their secrets and are definitely not just some uneducated idiot who thinks that because you found a dodgy story on a Spanish website that its legit. I have found a website stating that if I rub pepper in my eyes I will become rich. BUT I cannot find ANYTHING anywhere else about it, shit the american government must be covering it up!

 
At 6:49 PM, Anonymous DeliciousCake said...

this is ridiculous.

you are ridiculous.

i shall be informing the government that you know all their secrets and are definitely not just some uneducated idiot who thinks that because you found a dodgy story on a Spanish website that its legit. I have found a website stating that if I rub pepper in my eyes I will become rich. BUT I cannot find ANYTHING anywhere else about it, shit the american government must be covering it up!

 
At 1:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ran into a friend of a friend this weekend who claimed the sun was not hot. Thought he was pulling my chain, but he actually believes it and low and behold here are a few more folks who do!

Note that the fellow has only a few community college courses under his belt and no scientific training at all.

I think something similar is going on with this blog and some of the folks posting here.

Basic lack of understanding of how scientists operate or ignorance of simple principles like the ideal gas law is quite obvious. Moreover whenever someone starts mixing religion with science its apparent that you are doing it wrong.

Science thrives on controversy, everyone's trying to one up the other guy and eviscerate the opposition's papers through the peer review process. If you have evidence, (hell, even a good testable hypothesis) of such a radical claim like the sun not being hot you can gather quite a large amount of fame and funding in short order.

Even if your an outsider to the field with no formal education in the area, if your ideas can survive the gauntlet that is peer review you can achieve the ultimate goal: a Nobel Prize. Fame, fortune, a place in the textbooks and of course science groupies (ok not too many groupies, but they do exist).
This is how we discovered plate tectonics.

However, you have to understand the predominant theory if you want to play with the big boys. otherwise, don't be surprised if people laugh at you.

 
At 12:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of the guys who wrote here posts in support of NASA are close-minded and do not see the conspiracy or are agents with dark agenda, not real people. The sun is not hot, it operates on cold fusion.

Read BVW at www.luisprada.com

 
At 11:52 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its very interesting to see just how many idiots there really are in the world. Space is cold because there is no air to transmit heat. Heat from the sun is generated by the radiation that it emmits that travel through space. Just like radio waves can burn you if they are concentrated, the radiation emmitted by the sun heats earths air. that heat is maintained within earths atmosphere with the greenhouse effect, similar to keeping heat on in your house during a cold day. Here's the kicker, energy reactions emit hit. so if the sun is producing radioactive energy, its a fairly safe bet that it is at the very least, warm. is it possible that cold fusion is a viable theory, sure it is, but the idea that the US government is covering it up is about as viable as this idiotic blog post.

 
At 2:52 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you for your input. Obviously some have "forgotten" everything is a theory. Even if it is proven correct because later on someone can correct it or improve it.
Gees where are some people manners!

 
At 2:23 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

can anyone give info regarding solar flares?

 
At 6:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes this definitely confirms my findings. Thank you. .

 
At 6:34 PM, Anonymous Ellen said...

ColdFusion make sense extreme heat in the Sun that does not make sense. items have a tendency to levitate under cold fusion .but with a society like ours,you can be trained to be leave anything.

 
At 11:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Best way to find out how COLD Sun is, is to go to Erupting Volcano and walk on Lava.

That will give you better idea how cold The Sun is.

This is nonsense."

the sun is not molten rock... if that blows your mind then the possibly of cold fusion stars might be to much for you.





 
At 11:35 AM, Blogger Optimus PrhYme said...

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At 11:25 PM, Blogger Scarlett McQueen said...

Um? Where's that blackout? Nostradumbass.

 
At 11:27 PM, Blogger Scarlett McQueen said...

I think you should stop thinking.

 
At 11:31 PM, Blogger Scarlett McQueen said...

I think you should stop thinking.

 
At 5:47 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Soooo.. if you touched dry ice with bare hands your skin would not get a burn?? There are chemical reactions and some things are not as they seem. . Problem is that people refuse to think and only obtain information they are feed and regurgitate the same BS.

 
At 5:48 PM, Blogger Unknown said...

Soooo.. if you touched dry ice with bare hands your skin would not get a burn?? There are chemical reactions and some things are not as they seem. . Problem is that people refuse to think and only obtain information they are feed and regurgitate the same BS.

 

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